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  1. John John

    Well, well, well. Seems like the WF is earning quite a reputation for itself.

    With all the people being banned there, pretty soon it’ll just be the sourpuss mods left. They can all sit around and commiserate with one another and cry in their beer (and continue to kiss the shiny metal arse of Sir Allen Says….lol!)

  2. @John – LOL …. Don’t they do enough of that as it is … Even some of the lame posers left and started their own forum. The cheating and lying posers that claim to be experts said they did not have freedom of speech anymore…lol Crybabies!!!

  3. Toledo Toledo

    I was banned for a couple of weeks for describing a product I was creating…It made me realize just how carefully you have to tread when writing posts. Let emotion drive you and you’ll be banned quickly, think about what you’re writing and you may be ok. It really influenced my online earnings, I didn’t realise how much I depended on WF for my online earnings.

    🙂

  4. the lighter side the lighter side

    How about a song titled “Allen Says” sung to the tune of “Simon Says”?

    Just a thought …………….

  5. JG JG

    That Paul Myers really is one fucked up piece of shit. Someone made a sarcastic remark and Myers responded saying “My tolerance for sarcasm and argument on this subject is just about expended.”

    What a cheek!! Myers is the most sarcastic bastard on the WF. Almost every post of his contains sarcasm.

    I’d like to see Allen Says behind bars. I think if enough people complain to the FTC the WF could get shut down at the very least. Im glad I never paid $37 to join the War Room. What a scam!!

    Oh and Beverly Clement, you know that fat ugly bitch who thinks she’s Jessica Fletcher and calls herself a “writing coach”? I made a blog about her…

    http://beverlyclementwritingcoach.blogspot.com

    UN-BE-FUCKING-LIEVABLE!

  6. Tess Tess

    Good points, JG. Paul enjoys being a prick, and Bev is NOT a writer…lol! Another WF buffoon is “Big Mike.” I have to admit it was kind of fun watching those two (Paul and Big Mike) going at it awhile back.

    What a circus the WF is!

  7. it’s ridiculous Ive been kicked out for no reason lol…

    I don’t even know why they just said I bumped some out threads Huh????

    what’s all that about…

    PATHETIC LOL

  8. JG JG

    @Tess

    I remember that argument between them. lol
    Big Mike is a bloody idiot. I’ve had a few bannings as a result of arguing with him. Beverly Clement is a very nosey creature. I can’t stand the woman!

    @Louise
    No doubt it was Myers that banned you or another of the incompetent asshole moderators.

    Here are a few rules you’ll never see posted anywhere on the WF

    1. As long as you’re friends with Allen you’ll never get banned no matter what you do or say.

    2. If you disagree with anything Paul Myers posts you run the risk of being banned. Agree with him and you won’t have any problems.

    3. Although the Warrior Forum is member moderated anyone with “Moderator” under their username gets their WSO’s listed free.

  9. ex Warrior ex Warrior

    JG:

    Once again, your observations are spot on!

    Another uppity one, and good friends with Bev Clement, is Mary Murtha.

    And watch out when Big Mike gets a bug up his ass!

    And speaking of mods…..Les Gibbon can be a jerk too. Very moody, that guy. He’s the one that had it in for Steven Wagenheim when Wags started his posting-on-steroids frenzy a few years back.

    Now Steven Wagenheim…well, that’s a whole other story in itself, lol!

  10. Ex Warrior Ex Warrior

    Ah, let me correct myself.

    That should be Les Gibbons (with an “s”).

    And yeah, Bev Clement thinks she’s Lieutenant Columbo.
    Always trying to bust someone and snitch on them. What a buffoon and a colossal beyotch! Columbo? Actually, she’s more like a female Barney Fife.

  11. check out allen check out allen

    Check this out:

    http://www.facebook.com/allen.says

    He’s trying to project his best “tough guy” image, lol!
    What he doesn’t realize is that he’s suckin’ on one of Billy Clinton’s special “Monica” cigars.

  12. don’t worry. I was banned 3 times before i eventually got banned for good. I still don’t even know why.

  13. Tiffany Tiffany

    Is Allen Says the second coming of Christ?

    Well, he sure gets treated that way by the moderators and forum regulars. I mean, what has he really done except to start a forum…has he published any books? Is he truly a world-renowned marketer? I think not. Yet, in the eyes of the Warriors, he walks on water!

    I think alot of them over at that forum have delusions of grandeur…to say the least!

  14. JG JG

    lol@ Columbo! I havent seen her around for a while, with any luck she’ll have eaten one too many pies and exploded.

    oh My God Steven Wagenheim…he’s so far up himself he’s in danger of turning inside out.

    Top 5 Wagenheim phrases

    “I’m done with this thread”
    “I’m a big boy”
    “It was five months before I made my first sale”
    “I’m a six figure marketer”
    “What do YOU think?”

    I forgot to post the 2010 Paul Myer’s Ass Kissing Contest results

    1st Steven Wagenheim
    2nd John Taylor
    3rd Kay King
    4th Jay Extreme

    Congratulations to Steven! No doubt you’ll win again next year.

  15. Waggsy Wagenheim Waggsy Wagenheim

    Listen, do you think it’s easy being Steve Wagenheim? Well, do you??? Let me tell ya, if it wasn’t for the WF and Allen Says, I’d be a mere shell of a man. I mean, hell, I’d be chopped freakin liver for cryin out loud. I owe everything to the WF.

    It was a hard climb to the top, but I made it. With over 14,000 posts under my belt, I made it dammit! If it wasn’t for Allen, I’d be living in a van down by the river!

    Go right ahead and make fun of the Wagster if you must, you and that evil bunch over there at Wickedfire.

    It’s OK, diss me all ya want. Hey, I’m a big boy and I can TAKE IT!

    Gotta run, I got at least another 100 posts to make today…

  16. Waggsy Wagenheim Waggsy Wagenheim

    Was there ever any doubt that I’d take first place in the Paul Myers ass kissing contest? I think not…..

  17. Waggsy Wagenheim Waggsy Wagenheim

    Lord Almighty, JG, I really don’t want to picture Beverly eating a pie–or anythihng else for that matter.

    I have to go gouge my eyes out now…

  18. Waggsy Wagenheim Waggsy Wagenheim

    Hey look, guys, I mean c’mon now…do you think I was born a successful marketer? Of course not. What I did was storm into the Warrior Forum like a frikkin bull in a china shop and started posting my bony arse off like there was no tomorrow. Was I well received? Not at firsst, but I stayed the course and kisedd a frikkin boatloat of ARSE! Ya see, that’s what ya to do become a success like me.

    You make yourself a presence in a forum and become a household term.

    Shucks, if I weren’t a successful IM dude, I’m pretty sure I’d be a pornstar. Yeah, that’s the ticket. Just call me Steven “Ron Jeremy” Wagenheim.

    Good day to one and all!

  19. Waggsy Wagenheim Waggsy Wagenheim

    Hey, did I mention that I’m a huge fan of Chuck Rosseel?

    Well, I am! It’s true! And if Chuck ever wants me to introduce him to any hot women, he just needs to say the word.

    I know Bev Clement, Kay King, and lots of other broads over at the WF, so I could set Chuck up in a New York minute!

  20. Waggsy Wagenheim Waggsy Wagenheim

    “The Stever is Retro-Cool”

    Yeah, I’ll admit it: I’m a retro-geek.

    Those of you who know me may have followed me to the off-topic forum over at the WF. And if you have, you’re probably aware that I’m kind of into old tunes and one-hit wonders. It should come as no surprise, for example, if you were to find me cleaning out my garage on a Saturday while singing (attempting to sing, that is) Tommy Tu-Tone’s “8675309/Jenny.”

    Yeah, I’m geeky that way.

    Now, check this out:

    http://www.wagtunes.cashhosters2.com/biz/swagen2.jpg

    Is that something right out the early 70’s or what?!
    That’s me with the little wifey Donna and my daughter, Christine.

    Hey, what can I tell ya…geeky is good. It’s part of the Wagster’s image.

    Hey, have a geeky and retro weekend, guys and gals. Dig out some old tunes or watch “Revenge of the Nerds” for the 150th time.

    Retro-cool is, well………..COOL!

    Yours in marketing,

    The Stever

  21. Joe Pesci Joe Pesci

    Bev Clement is one ugly broad . . . plus she’s got more chins than the Chinese phonebook.

    But all the sheeple over at the Warrior Forum sure do like to suck up to her!

  22. Joe Pesci Joe Pesci

    If Bev were the only woman left on earth, I’d rather have a date with Rosie Palm and her five sisters…know what I’m saying? I mean, fuhgettaboutit!

  23. Waggsy Wagenheim Waggsy Wagenheim

    Hey guys & gals….just to keep things kind of on-topic here…and I apologize for not having done so…

    The Stever WAS BANNED from the Warrior Forum!

    OK, so hopefully none of you went into cardiac arrest and are in immediate need of defribillation….and if I ever do, I hope to be defribrillated by Ming Na, but I digress…

    Yeah, it’s true, I was banned! Here’s the “skinny” on this situation as I explained it on one forum…

    Gavin:

    Here is my 2 cents on all this for whatever they’re worth.

    I was banned from the Warrior Forum a while back for 7 days for calling a few members who were ragging on Michael Jackson some not so nice names. While they deserved my tongue lashing for throwing dirt on the guy’s grave, I also deserved what I got.

    The forum has rules and we need to obey them…like it or not. Either we accept those rules and contribute or go find some place else to play.

    As for whether anybody needs the Warrior Forum or not, I can only comment that since joining, my income has increased by 2.5 times. So for me, it’s been a positive experience…even with all the problems that I brought on myself.

    I have learned from them…and it’s made me a better marketer and person.

    Bottom line is simple. You can do anything you want to do in this world with or without any one particular person, site, program or whatever. You are in control of your own future. Nobody else.

    So Warrior Forum or not, what you do with YOUR life and your success in it is up to you and you alone.

    Wishing you nothing but the best.

    Sincerely,

    Steven Wagenheim

    So, no one is really immune from banning. I know it’s frustrating, but I guess ya got to think of it as some sort of “right of passage” or something, lol!

    Yours in marketing,

    The Stever

    P.S. Do I know how to kiss arse or what??? LOL!

  24. Waggsy Wagenheim Waggsy Wagenheim

    Not to toot my own horn, but I think this little ditty–sung by yours truly–is kind of sexy, even kind of bubble-gummy.

    What I do know is that it really turns the ladies on. I mean, jeepers, it’s like foreplay for cryin’ out loud!

    Tryt not to get too excited, ladies..LOL!

    Oh, you ain’t seen nothin’ yet! The Stever is working on a cover of Smashing Pumpkins’ “Cherub Rock.”

    Peace & Hair Grease..

    The Stever

  25. Ad Hustler Ad Hustler

    @Waggsy – You are getting annoying

  26. Waggsy Wagenheim Waggsy Wagenheim

    @Ad Hustler

    I know…sory about that. I’ll try to keep my posting Tourette’s confined to the Warrior Forum.

    Have a great week!

  27. AC AC

    @Joe Said…
    “if you paid for War Room – demand a refund from Paypal… youve paid for “Lifetime membership” which is now not being permitted… refund in order – worked for me! ”
    =====================================

    I cannot get a refund because it has been more than 45 days since I paid. I paid with PayPal. Is there another way around that, because as you said, this is for a LIFETIME membership.

  28. Ed Johnson Ed Johnson

    Looks like Mr. Paul Myers is a certifiable idiot and one who is very full of himelf.

    Get over yourself, Paul!

  29. JG JG

    He certainly is. Very patronising, incredibly pompous and a one of the forum’s biggest bullies.

    I mean seriously, he starts a thread (or should I say speech) saying don’t argue with moderators and has (as I type this) 79 thanks.

    79 thanks for basically saying don’t argue with moderators. *rollseyes*

    Pathetic.

  30. not a paul fan not a paul fan

    I swear the WF is the only thing in Paul Myers’s pathetic life.

    That dude is a narcissistic weenie!

    When they have a “roast” for the mods, I hope they don’t forget good ole’ Paul. He is, after all, one of their biggest weenies!

    A weenie roast for the WaFo mods…perfect! LOL!

  31. Jo Jo

    @JG Why are you surprised at 79 thanks for ‘don’t argue with moderators.’ Since every member is a moderator, I’m surprised that there aren’t thousands more.

    Making every member a moderator is, IMO, the cause of all the trouble. Elevate a nobody to a somebody, and it goes to his or her head. I don’t believe for one minute that every ban is run by a ‘qualified’ moderator.

    When I was banned, it was so fast after the post that it would have been impossible for review to have taken place. Others have commented about the incredible speed, as well, so I feel like that is truly the case.

  32. CJ CJ

    I just got banned like 10 minutes ago and it did not even give me a reason. It just said I was banned for not following the rules. It would be nice to know which rules I did not follow. One second I am on there waiting for a reply, I hit refresh and it said I was Banned. I guess it’s a good thing I hit refresh or I woulda still been sitting there waiting for a reply.

  33. JG JG

    LOL@ narcissistic weenie. That describes him very well!

    @Jo
    I’m not surprised he has so many thanks as many people on that forum can’t wait to kiss his ass at every available opportunity. Members like Kay Burger King, Kim Standinline, R Bagel and TMG Starship Enterprise. They’re always around when Paul posts.

    I agree having a member moderated forum is a bad idea. Allen Says really does come up with some damn ed stupid ideas but having seen a picture of him I can totally understand that.

    @CJ
    They never tell you why. And if you send a ticket to their “help desk” asking why you were banned you’ll never get a reply.

  34. I also have had bad experiences over there because of the mods.

    I have better things to do than to waste my time on such a board, and to let this get to me (afterall, it is just a message board), but, like the others here, I thought I would post this to help spread the word.

    If you don’t go along with the “club mentality,” you are either banned, your posts are deleted, and or your password is reset time after time after time.

    If your opinion of something and or someone they all like is different than theirs…oh, boy, look out!

    And if a mod doesn’t like it, you are indeed banned. I have heard from two of my clients on this one also.

    For example: It seems that everybody over there loooooves John Carlton. As a professional copywriter, I personaly feel he is mediocre, at best.

    A thread was started by a newbie asking for opinions about Carlton.

    I was civil, and gave him my opinion, like he asked for.

    It was short, to the point, not rude…

    Guess what? Yup, my posts were deleted.

    And…the mob went after me with torches. lol

    Funny thing is…I and maybe a couple of other posters were the only ones who participated in the thread with frank opinions. All others were acting like idiots, simply because I had a different opinion of their hero.

    *shrugs shoulders* Oh well.

  35. JG JG

    I know exactly what you mean by “the mob”.

    I’ve never mentioned this before but when I first joined the Warrior Forum in 2007 I posted a WSO which was a report on making money from press releases.

    This was on the old WF (not the new VBulletin forum they have now). I got nothing but positive comments and I don’t think I got a single refund.

    Not long after that I was posting some tips on the forum and I noticed every single thread and post I made was being deleted.

    I thought this was very strange and when I saw a post I made congratulating someone on their first Clickbank sale was deleted I got really annoyed and started a thread asking what was going on.

    Of course that thread was deleted almost immediately.
    Helpful posts of mine on the SEO board were also being deleted.

    I sent an email to moderator Leslie Gibbon as he seemed to be the only moderator online at the time so I assumed it was him that was deleting all my posts.

    I got no repsonse.

    Then I noticed the “WSO Moderator” was online.
    The WSO moderator then “took over” my account. He started to post using my account. Every time I started a thread the thread title would change to what he wanted it to be. He changed my signature to what he wanted it to read.

    He called me a scammer and posted all sorts of stupid things and all it got quite ridiculous.

    I could still log in so I started a thread saying that a moderator was posting as me but of course all the members thought I was crazy and no one believed me.

    It didn’t last long and after that my account was deleted.

    Totally unprofessional.

  36. ed ed

    JG:

    Paul Myers, in that thread you just referenced about arguing with a mod, referred to Les Gibbon as a “super mod.” Les is quite full of himself.

    The other mod (WSO) is Michael Tracey. I can tell just by what you’re describing, as I’ve seen it there many times. Michael T. thought it so clever to take over one’s account and then alter the post to make it sound as if the original poster was saying “Look at me, I’m a big dummy for getting banned…” or words to that effect.

    Most of those mods seem to be cut from the same cloth. Although Bryan Kumar seemed OK as I recall.

  37. JG JG

    I remember Michael Tracey. He banned me after he demanded I remove my signature. I said I’d think about it (which really wound him up).

    I notice Leslie Gibbon seems to really have it in for Steven Wagenheim. Not sure what started their long running feud.

    Pity the thread about Jim Straw’s banning was deleted. It was good to see some members telling Paul Myers what they think of him.

    I applaud MarkAndrews IMCopywriting, Stede Troisi and David Jackson. It’s time that condescending creature got a taste of his own medicine!

  38. Anon Anon

    MarkAndrews has just been completely banned for life and I notice all of his threads and posts have been completely deleted.

  39. Joe Joe

    Guys, chill out.. dont need to be a member to browse the forum.. since we’ve all been banned we can take what little useful info there is on there without feeling guilty for not giving anything back!
    Bunch of lossers on there anyway… BTW i got my full refund for my War Room subscription 🙂

  40. Anon Anon

    Apparently in reply to Paul Myers insults publically on the forum whilst sticking up for Jim Straw saying the mods should unban him, he called Paul Myers a sanctimonious old windbag along with one or two other choice words.

    I don’t think it went down very well.

  41. AnotherAnon AnotherAnon

    Ah, now that’s refreshing to hear that at least there are a few that have the cojones to stand up to Paul!

    Sweet!

    Paul and BigMike had quite a little donnybrook awhile back…it just never ceases to be interesting over there at that forum.

    BTW…I’ll just bet Paul lurks here. Methinks I feel the presence of that omnipresent cowboy hat! 🙂

  42. JG JG

    Oh here we go moderator John Taylor who seems to be doing a very bad Robert De Niro impersonation is congratulating himself on making 10,000 posts. *rollseyes*

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