Comments on: Get Out Of My Affiliate Network http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/ Confessions Of A Serial Internet Entrepreneur Fri, 03 Feb 2012 09:14:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Stunt Gunman http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/comment-page-1/#comment-19992 Stunt Gunman Thu, 01 Jul 2010 18:27:37 +0000 http://www.adhustler.com/?p=1059#comment-19992 Rob has really nailed it with his explanation. I manage an affiliate network that succeeds, in part, due to the attention that our AMs are able to give to our publishers that perform as well as those who are legitimate and are trying their best to earn revenue. If we don't clean shop once in a while then our AMs get bogged down, the risk of fraud within a network is significantly higher with thousands of inactive accounts with possible fraudsters lurking in the shadows waiting to strike, and if somebody wants to get back in all they need to do is contact an AM with a legit reason as to why they should not have been removed. It's exceptionally easy for us to see who is really performing within other networks, and those who have good sites registered are unlikely to be dropped, regardless of protocols to remove sites that fit certain criteria, but even if that did happen they'd be let back in with a review or call. Given the security risk of having so many inactive accounts, dropping those who don't produce is a simple fact that inactive account-owners will have to deal with and I hardly see it being worked up about if you are in fact innactive within that network. Rob has really nailed it with his explanation. I manage an affiliate network that succeeds, in part, due to the attention that our AMs are able to give to our publishers that perform as well as those who are legitimate and are trying their best to earn revenue. If we don’t clean shop once in a while then our AMs get bogged down, the risk of fraud within a network is significantly higher with thousands of inactive accounts with possible fraudsters lurking in the shadows waiting to strike, and if somebody wants to get back in all they need to do is contact an AM with a legit reason as to why they should not have been removed. It’s exceptionally easy for us to see who is really performing within other networks, and those who have good sites registered are unlikely to be dropped, regardless of protocols to remove sites that fit certain criteria, but even if that did happen they’d be let back in with a review or call. Given the security risk of having so many inactive accounts, dropping those who don’t produce is a simple fact that inactive account-owners will have to deal with and I hardly see it being worked up about if you are in fact innactive within that network.

]]> By: Affiliate Programs http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/comment-page-1/#comment-19156 Affiliate Programs Sat, 12 Jun 2010 06:12:43 +0000 http://www.adhustler.com/?p=1059#comment-19156 Hi Ad Hustler, We only choose our preferred network, which pays on-time weekly or bi-weekly and has plenty of offers. And, that's the point we hardly earn money with other networks. Network should know this fact. Hi Ad Hustler, We only choose our preferred network, which pays on-time weekly or bi-weekly and has plenty of offers. And, that’s the point we hardly earn money with other networks. Network should know this fact.

]]> By: Poser http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/comment-page-1/#comment-16273 Poser Mon, 12 Apr 2010 05:33:15 +0000 http://www.adhustler.com/?p=1059#comment-16273 I agree with Ad Hustler, and Hydra is full of you know I agree with Ad Hustler, and Hydra is full of you know

]]> By: Ad Hustler http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/comment-page-1/#comment-15363 Ad Hustler Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:52:42 +0000 http://www.adhustler.com/?p=1059#comment-15363 Good points Rob. I do agree with you that reputation will matter a lot more in the future then it does now. This industry will probably be much more about who you know and who knows you. Good points Rob. I do agree with you that reputation will matter a lot more in the future then it does now. This industry will probably be much more about who you know and who knows you.

]]> By: Rob http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/comment-page-1/#comment-15359 Rob Wed, 24 Mar 2010 17:08:41 +0000 http://www.adhustler.com/?p=1059#comment-15359 I completely agree with you that it's unnecessary, because if Hydra and all these other morons had given an inch of concern with who their publishers were from day 1 this wouldn't have ever happened in the first place, but when the money is flowing there is little cause for change. The truth is, the word is out on what these large networks do to solid advertisers with their junk traffic and they need to get some good PR fast because none of use believe their BS about how "strict" their approval process is, my 4 year old daughter could get into hydra. A lot of smaller networks are picking up steam because they know most of their publishers personally and have a far better handle on who is running what and how. It's unfortunate this had to happen, but it did have to happen. We've been taking ID's, utility bills and affiliate manager references for the last few years on our internal programs and I think you'll continue to see that become the norm with every network. Hopefully this type of sweep won't ever have to happen again because they will now know those dormant accounts are at least linked to legit pubs and don't have to be concerned. I completely agree with you that it’s unnecessary, because if Hydra and all these other morons had given an inch of concern with who their publishers were from day 1 this wouldn’t have ever happened in the first place, but when the money is flowing there is little cause for change.

The truth is, the word is out on what these large networks do to solid advertisers with their junk traffic and they need to get some good PR fast because none of use believe their BS about how “strict” their approval process is, my 4 year old daughter could get into hydra.

A lot of smaller networks are picking up steam because they know most of their publishers personally and have a far better handle on who is running what and how.

It’s unfortunate this had to happen, but it did have to happen. We’ve been taking ID’s, utility bills and affiliate manager references for the last few years on our internal programs and I think you’ll continue to see that become the norm with every network.

Hopefully this type of sweep won’t ever have to happen again because they will now know those dormant accounts are at least linked to legit pubs and don’t have to be concerned.

]]> By: Ad Hustler http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/comment-page-1/#comment-15346 Ad Hustler Wed, 24 Mar 2010 15:28:58 +0000 http://www.adhustler.com/?p=1059#comment-15346 "I can always pick up the phone and get back in if I’m legit." Yea you definitely can. Its just a pain in the ass to have to waste time doing that when you already did it x months ago. I can understand you point of view but think its an unnecessary practice. “I can always pick up the phone and get back in if I’m legit.”

Yea you definitely can. Its just a pain in the ass to have to waste time doing that when you already did it x months ago.

I can understand you point of view but think its an unnecessary practice.

]]> By: Rob http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/comment-page-1/#comment-15342 Rob Wed, 24 Mar 2010 14:24:17 +0000 http://www.adhustler.com/?p=1059#comment-15342 I disagree, but to be fair, a few years I go I probably would have agreed with all of you. Now that I've been a publisher a merchant and a network I have a far better understanding of all three sides and that's really how you have to look at everything. The bottom line is 99% of affiliates talk a big game and do nothing. The whole "small guys become big guys" thing is talked about like it's an everyday thing, it's not. The amount of fraud and shit traffic on the networks is staggering, the big networks are starting to see that 100 million in rev last year doesn't mean anything this year, the playing field is changing and if they want to survive they need to clean up their act, and fast. A 30 day scrub should be common practice. No activity in 30 days, account canned. Want back in? fill out an app again, that's business. You don't need an affiliate account to see offers, between the offervaults of the world, the fact that you often remain on the networks email list forever even if you're banned forget just deactivated, and that you can always reach out to your old AM to inquire about what's new and hot in certain verticals if you want additional offers for testing. Frankly, well over half the people bitching about this are full of it anyway, they don't run traffic to anyone, they just want 50 accounts if they ever want to get off their ass which is going to be never anyway. If you are in fact a player, then you should have no issue proving it. I sure as hell would never have an account deactivated, even the networks I run zero with know I run numbers elsewhere and are always hitting me up to run them, even if I don't have an account they use business cards I handed out at shows three years ago to this day always sending me some new offer they want me to look at and most publishers get the same. In the end it's all about marketing anyway, everyone is a consumer, and everyone wants what they can't have. It's like little kids who don't play with a toy for a year and don't give a shit if it goes in the trash until someone else plays with it and they can't, all of a sudden it's a catastrophe. If Hydra closed an account I ran zero on, that's my fault, not theirs, because obviously they don't know a pimp when they see one, and if I'm running 300k a month to someone else what the fuck do I care about an account I haven't picked up an offer with in 6 months? I can always pick up the phone and get back in if I'm legit. I disagree, but to be fair, a few years I go I probably would have agreed with all of you. Now that I’ve been a publisher a merchant and a network I have a far better understanding of all three sides and that’s really how you have to look at everything.

The bottom line is 99% of affiliates talk a big game and do nothing. The whole “small guys become big guys” thing is talked about like it’s an everyday thing, it’s not.

The amount of fraud and shit traffic on the networks is staggering, the big networks are starting to see that 100 million in rev last year doesn’t mean anything this year, the playing field is changing and if they want to survive they need to clean up their act, and fast.

A 30 day scrub should be common practice. No activity in 30 days, account canned. Want back in? fill out an app again, that’s business.

You don’t need an affiliate account to see offers, between the offervaults of the world, the fact that you often remain on the networks email list forever even if you’re banned forget just deactivated, and that you can always reach out to your old AM to inquire about what’s new and hot in certain verticals if you want additional offers for testing.

Frankly, well over half the people bitching about this are full of it anyway, they don’t run traffic to anyone, they just want 50 accounts if they ever want to get off their ass which is going to be never anyway.

If you are in fact a player, then you should have no issue proving it. I sure as hell would never have an account deactivated, even the networks I run zero with know I run numbers elsewhere and are always hitting me up to run them, even if I don’t have an account they use business cards I handed out at shows three years ago to this day always sending me some new offer they want me to look at and most publishers get the same.

In the end it’s all about marketing anyway, everyone is a consumer, and everyone wants what they can’t have. It’s like little kids who don’t play with a toy for a year and don’t give a shit if it goes in the trash until someone else plays with it and they can’t, all of a sudden it’s a catastrophe.

If Hydra closed an account I ran zero on, that’s my fault, not theirs, because obviously they don’t know a pimp when they see one, and if I’m running 300k a month to someone else what the fuck do I care about an account I haven’t picked up an offer with in 6 months? I can always pick up the phone and get back in if I’m legit.

]]> By: Marketing from Rhode Island http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/comment-page-1/#comment-15216 Marketing from Rhode Island Mon, 22 Mar 2010 16:38:12 +0000 http://www.adhustler.com/?p=1059#comment-15216 I tried logging into my cj account yesterday and i'm pretty sure they let me go for the 3rd time. I do not plan on going back with commission junction anytine soon. The only sale I had was taken away as "FEES" for not making more sales, just like Clickbank. Why do they take money away that you earned anyway? i like Shareasale and Linkshare also Neverblue. I will work with them, they also have a better reputation than the other 2 I mentioned. When the need arises for me to go back to CJ I will do it . I really am not missing out on anything.. They do miss out on not ever getting a sale by me :) I tried logging into my cj account yesterday and i’m pretty sure they let me go for the 3rd time. I do not plan on going back with commission junction anytine soon. The only sale I had was taken away as “FEES” for not making more sales, just like Clickbank. Why do they take money away that you earned anyway?
i like Shareasale and Linkshare also Neverblue. I will work with them, they also have a better reputation than the other 2 I mentioned.
When the need arises for me to go back to CJ I will do it .
I really am not missing out on anything.. They do miss out on not ever getting a sale by me :)

]]> By: Matt http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/comment-page-1/#comment-15134 Matt Sun, 21 Mar 2010 01:55:54 +0000 http://www.adhustler.com/?p=1059#comment-15134 Hydra just axed my account. Can't see how I was draining their resources since their am's have never done anything of consequence for me, but guess their 22 mil in operating expenses must have gone somewhere ;) Hydra just axed my account. Can’t see how I was draining their resources since their am’s have never done anything of consequence for me, but guess their 22 mil in operating expenses must have gone somewhere ;)

]]> By: Josh Todd http://www.adhustler.com/get-out-of-my-affiliate-network/comment-page-1/#comment-15036 Josh Todd Fri, 19 Mar 2010 12:59:25 +0000 http://www.adhustler.com/?p=1059#comment-15036 @TRIPpin Perhaps the funniest comment I've read this year. Well done. @TRIPpin Perhaps the funniest comment I’ve read this year. Well done.

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